p.s. . Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. Mega turns yellow. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. William Smith, D.D., was The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. 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Do you think there is any major issue with this? This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. They were super rich! While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . The 'raw' look is a special look. Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. That makes SOOOO much sense. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. Training costs money. :), Absolutely gorgeous. thanks, All! I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone. And all the answers. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Sigh. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. Get ready for a LONG story! Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. You can use Poloplaz Pearl sealer with Endure or Pallmann's Pall-x white seal and Pall-x Pure. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. 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WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. A hint of tan. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). Argh. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. You only need an inch. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. Nice when a risk pays off . Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. Use natural seal. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? ! Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, Understand how sunlight affects your rooms and get tips on choosing paint colors for each type of exposure, Do you love perfection or patina? , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? One other question. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Thank you for your feedback. The builder already ordered the wood. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. Thank you. AhemRight??? ! My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. They should be able to get the job done for you. Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! Don't disagree with you at all. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Thank you for asking. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). I know I've gone on for a while. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. Our project starts on Dec 5. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). I think I would have done semi-gloss as a base and the matte as a final top coat or maybe satin as a top coat. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? Absolutely love the matte finish. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. Your floors are beautiful. It's a installer issue. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. The floor guys made custom floor vents. Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. This was such a great informative thread. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. In fact, Im pretty sure the samples were just wound into the builders quote to us for the floors. Get the third coat of sealer. Nordic seal has white pigments. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Do not use the following Bona naturale, Loba invisible, pearl or pure For the top coat. I absolutely love the floors. . The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. All you have are tge home centers to choose from. Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. My tub with quartz top. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! I have read so many wood floor horror stories. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! thanks, so much. (Side shower walls are white). You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Ahhhh. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. I personally love Quartzite. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? After sanding I loved the natural look of the wood including the knots and imperfections. Could my response be taken incorrectly? So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. It was applied Saturday morning. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. He just did coat #2, not sure how much he used. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". Any suggestions would be great. Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. And like all things "time is money". If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. Heres how to keep them that way, Let the sunshine in. 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If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. @tkgriff Love the floor. DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy.
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